Meeting Minutes - July 13, 2005
Alice Trussell (AA)
Jackie McClaskey (AG)
Lynn Ewanow (AR/D)
Alison Wheatley (AS)
Bente Janda (BA)
Betty Stevens (DCE)
Mike Lynch(EPDP)
Mike Perl (ED)
Ray Hightower (EN)
Jean Sommer (Grad Sch)
Monty Nielsen (Reg)
David Delker (TC)
Emily Lehning (Guest)
Al Cochran (Guest)
Tom Herald (Guest)
Call to Order:
10:33
Acceptance of Agenda.
Adjustments to agenda: A&S NSCMT
Acceptance of May minutes:
Stand approved
Guest:
Tom Herald, President of Faculty Senate
- Dr. Herald indicated that Faculty Senate supports CAPP.
- He asked if anything could be improved, such as providing a permanent secretary. There was
unanimous approval of this suggestion; he will make request to Provost.
- He asked if the chair should serve for 2 years, to provide continuity. CAPP's consensus was that
membership doesn't change that much, and it's a time consuming job to be chair, so one-year rotation is best.
- It was agreed that CAPP benefits from the presence of the academic affairs liaison (Alice Trussell),
as well as Al Cochran for the Provost, Mike Lynch, and Betty Stevens.
Admissions (Monty Nielson)
- Regarding the Oracle system: Admissions has determined that the Constituent Relationship
Management (CRM) system for recruitment is not adequate. Larry Moeder has proposed finding another product
to replace CRM.
- Electronic Grade Submission: Gunile Devault requests that CAPP members ask departments what is
done with hard copy of end-of-semester grade report? She is trying to decide whether to have print capability.
Please send answer to Gunile@ksu.edu .
- Gunile and Shirley Unekis from ISO, and Laura Wilson, K-State Online will come for update at the
beginning of the September 14 CAPP meeting.
Faculty Senate/Academic Affairs (Alice Trussell)
- Patricia Marsh is surveying all colleges and departments to see how they communicate with seniors
and alumni. The charge is to revise the senior and alumni surveys.
- Question re: 1 st day attendance policy. The old policy is still in print in the 2004-2006 catalogue,
even though Faculty Senate passed the new policy in April 2004. Al Cochran will arrange to have the policy and a
contact person for attendance policy appear for every department on the course schedule. He recommended that the
information be in any advising material and on all syllabi.
Division of Continuing Education (Betty Stevens)
- Ft. Riley is to undergo rapid growth in the near future. As the Fort regains troop strength,
K-State's goal is to be involved providing educational services to the Fort. Their director, Frederico Rodrigez,
was described as a visionary. Barton CC is already involved as well.
- There will be a full day advising event June 30 th with representatives from the Fort
and many K-State advisors; more meeting and events are scheduled.
- Art de Groat has been in charge of marketing to Fort Riley .
- This fall, K-State will be providing telenet courses, but will be experimenting with
simultaneous on-campus and telenet classes: during the 2 nd 8-week session two on-campus classes will
have live link to Ft Riley. This is a temporary solution to introduce military students to distance learning.
- K-State will not move to Fort Riley , except for the occasional group of students who need
to be there for a specific program.
- The numbers are “mind-boggling”: possibly 57,000 military and dependents by 2006.
- Approximately 2300 per year leave military in this area; we will target them with Masters
and Certificate programs.
Educational and Personal Development (Mike Lynch)
No report.
Non-Standard Time Requests
- Alison Wheatley requested approval of the request to schedule ENGL 670A on Tuesdays 3:55-6:45,
and ENGL 710 on Thursdays at the same time, same room; also ENGL 805 on Mondays 3:30-5:50. Lynn Ewanow seconded.
Motion approved for one time for Spring 2006.
Old Business
- Proposed Guidelines for a KSU Certificate Program (see attachment, below): Recommended
that “B.S.,” “MS.,” and “Ph.D.” be changed to “bachelor's,” “master's,” and “doctorate.” The certificate
committee recommended that all certificates be recertified. Betty Stevens so moved; Lynn Ewanow seconded;
approval granted.
- Academic Definitions (see attachment): Mike Perl moved approval, David Delker seconded; approval
granted. It was noted that the designation “Recommended Prerequisite” will pop up as a message when students are
enrolling.
New Business
- Dismissed Students enrolled in summer sessions: Human Ecology had four students in the
spring who were dismissed but whose summer schedules did not get dropped. It was a matter of the way the
calendar fell; it just didn't get done this year. DCE was able not to drop A&S students because A&S
provides a list of reinstated students to Linda Morse, registrar.
- Proposed new transfer student orientation and enrollment in November: Emily Lehning,
Asst Director of New Student Services, presented the proposal. Mike Perl felt that it was not a good idea, because
the 2 days before Thanksgiving is not a good time for faculty to meet with incoming students, nor is finals week.
Early January is a better time for students because more classes are open after schedules of dismissed students
are dropped. Jackie McClasky said it sends a bad message to transfer students to make them wait to have
orientation; suggested allowing transfer students to have their orientation day in the fall and then have
them enroll in January. Julie Katz has met with community college students who are anxious about getting
classes they need at K-State. Betty Stevens recommended having them come at mid-term, maybe the Thursday
before Thanksgiving. Other campuses have similar programs. Informal consensus was reached on this last
suggestion.
- Proposal to move fall OSS training sessions to afternoons every Thursday.
Consensus was that current morning schedule, 9:30-11:30 a.m., worked better for most colleges. It is recommended
that one person from each department be trained to enter courses into the new system; every course has to be
entered individually.
Meeting Adjourned
11:58 a.m.
Next meeting:
August 10, 2005, 10:30 a.m.
Attachments
POLICY FOR A KSU CERTIFICATE PROGRAM (recommended by CAPP, 7-13-05)
A KSU “Certificate” program emphasizes a focused specialty area of study as a part of or beyond the
requirements for the bachelor's, master's, or doctorate degrees.
It must increase the knowledge and skills of individuals such as to enhance their employability and
opportunities for promotions and salary benefits.
It must be recognized and/or endorsed as marketable by the profession that it serves, and must be
validated by a specific assessment process.
The department and college that propose a certificate must provide for approval the:
- “purpose,”
- “requirements,”
- “desired outcomes,”
- “assessment procedures,”
- estimated budget and staff required, and must
- seek approval of their certificate program through normal academic channels.
ACADEMIC DEFINITIONS: Prerequisites, etc.
(Recommended by CAPP, 7-13-05)
course prerequisite (Pr.) : a requirement that a student must satisfy before he/she is permitted
to enroll in that course. This requirement can be one or any combination of the following: complete one or more
lower level courses (if no grade specified, earn at least a P, CR, or D grade in the prerequisite course); complete
a lower level course with a grade specified (C,B,A); a specified class rank for the student (sophomore, junior, senior),
or instructor's permission.
course recommended prerequisite (Rec. Pr.) : a requirement a student need not satisfy before
enrolling in the course, but is recommended in order to enhance the student's learning of the course material.
concurrent requirement (Conc.) : a requirement (course, practicum, etc.) that must be
completed at the same time, during the same session, as the course with which it is listed as a concurrent requirement.
course prerequisite or concurrent requirement (Pr. or Conc.) : a requirement of one or more courses that
a student should either complete with the appropriate grade prior to enrolling in this course, or take concurrently with
this course.
NOTE:
The word “requisite” means required, and there is no such word such “corequisite.”
Respectfully submitted,
Alison E. Wheatley, CAPP Secretary, 2005-2006